Overall public sentiment regarding the US-India arms deal is marked by skepticism and distrust towards the US as a reliable military partner. Commenters express concerns about reliance on American defense supplies, national security implications, and a desire for more indigenous defense solutions. There are also critical perspectives on government decision-making and the potential for being embroiled in conflicts, particularly with Pakistan.

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Any rational observer would have said that the temporary blip in public relations and statements between India and the US were due to trade and tariffs issues, the former's reluctance to adopt a more active anti-China front and the whole Russian oil conundrum, which coincided with the Pakistani Junta rolling out the red carpet for minerals, bribing the Trump admin and family (the whole crypto scam), agreeing to be part of US-Israeli plans for Gaza; and engaging in unprecedented levels of flattery of Trump himself.


It had nothing to do with whatever Munir's supporters or various Sharif sycophants were peddling.


**Submission statement got accidently deleted when making the post. Pinning it as a comment**

BlandBiryani

PMLUN right now. Sir I want to salute you 🤣

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Cold_Flow6175

Where are all the pmln people, shouting India one of the top growing economies in the world now stand alone?? Thanks to showbaz we are not the center of asia. I did not see modi sucking upto trump no saaar noooo.

[deleted]

Where does this leave Asim Munir ball lickers?

No_Public_7677

India gets defence and trade pacts, Pakistan gets ”my good fried Field Warshall”. Yet the patwar clowns are clapping how they are truly winning. Duffers be duffering since 1947. Aik aur noble peace prize k liay bhi nominate kardo ghulamon.

LahoriDreamss

Hamary pm sahib or coaf  tareefen kr kr k thak gaye or deals apny puranny ally k sath.

_abubakar

Bhai, bade logon ki ladai aur dosti ke khel mein hum jaise Indians aur aap jaise Pakistani jaan gawan dete hai.

JasonElegant

This is not a defence pact. It's a renewal of a previous agreement signed in 2015 related to technical support, info sharing, exercises, etc

V9sp

Where is the boot polisher and saluting showbaz sharif ?

Spiritual-Elk-4144

Trump k bhe sahi maze hai, TC (punjabi wali) krwany k liy Asim Munir and Shehbaz Shariff aur defense pact k liy Modi Ji. Lakin PML-Netanyahu aur Asim kh*nz**r k supporters k hisab se Shehbaz aur Asim Munir ki foreign policy ne India ko puri dunia mai akela kr dia hai.

under_stress274

Any rational observer would say that this is how international politics worked. 

India was not doing what US wanted, they forged closer ties with Pakistan, Pakistan welcomed and tried to enhance ties with its largest export partner. India itself tried to mend some bridges with China but ultimately pivoted hard back to US, their natural ally in the region.

Ill_Help_9560

The us in it's current form is incredibly selfish and short sighted. 
Pakistan needs to negotiate a deal with India where all current lines of control are accepted by both parties. They can concentrate on peace instead

OpportunityFuture340

hahahahahahhahaha started war with afganistan, killed own citizens, ran to normalize with the zionists.

Shoddy-Reach9232

So in simple terms, US was like a college stud trying to make his ex jealous and win her back by dating her rival. Trump admins foreign policy is like stupid romcom movies.

AmBoD

This is signed every 10 years. India is a huge market for American weapons and the Tejas has GE engines in them.

actionmunda

When the middle east is tying up with Pakistan, Here comes America playing a chess on his own, Maintaining relationship with Pakistan, praising Field Marshal and Compromised setup every now and then &amp; at the same time degrading India &amp; also signing a defense agreement. This is Trump Chess for you.

Worldly_Kick_5296

Far_Sir_8031

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Where is saluting boot licker show-baz sharif ?

Ab Kare Shalwar Shareef Trump Ki Tarifen😄

Easy-River-7358

imagine falling for the US time and time again

at some point you have to look over if you need a better ally

trydola

Nothing unexpected and something everyone already knows about

AccordingPeach5211

ComplexTell25

Waiting for China vs Bharat war. That is the only reason this pact signed

PossibleGazelle519

Calling this a defence pact is a stretch. The US will never come to India's defence and vice versa.

BallyBoy1856

But indians ab kis munh se isi Trump k chukkyn gy jisko last 6.months ae Gaaliyan de rhy thy??? 😂

caffiinatedbro

Gosh it's Terrifying what cult following can do to your brain. Irredeemable folk. Can't even talk without abuses. Oral Piles.

Kink_Drowned

These treaties mean nothing. Just ask Qatar.

wildcard5

It's not a pact, it's a framework in hegseths own tweet.

NicotineForeva

It’s a defence “framework”, not “pact”. And with an expiry date too. The same as trump’s trade deals. .😁

piscator111

While we're going after India, the US should make lifting these tariffs conditional on doing something about their scam centers. They know where the scamming is happening, they just look the other way because of the revenue.

Magehunter_Skassi

Nice. Makes a pause in H1-B visas more and more likely. Looking forward to that.

WeimSean

Good. Keep buying Russian junk. It blows up so easily.

BlackScienceManTyson

Far-prophet

ITrCool

Despite its vast population and economy, India is still a third-world country.  What a shame. Why do they buy from Russia? Price. When price is the only consideration, cheapness ensues. India is a cheap knockoff of the Western world. They don't care. They would just as quickly switch allegiances over price.

Device_whisperer

Just like China, India will feel the weight of the US economy. Of course, I don't expect them to just give in right away, they are the 4th largest economy in the world, but we'll see how it all pans out.

Markinoutman

Given the demand many other countries (EU!) are going cutting HUGE purchase orders the next few years, something tells me the US Military manufacturers will be just fine.

And funny, our real trade deficit with India is huge.  So huge this is the best lever they can come up with.

cliffotn

This is one of the few tariffs I agree with. India and China need to stop funding Russia's war. Until they do everyone should be cutting them off

Hectoriu

Russia is India's largest supplier of military hardware, Israel is second, the US third. And now that the Ukraine has successfully proven the US hardware is far superior in combat than the aging Russian technology, you stick with those losers and when your COMCASA no longer works and you have to use carrier pigeons for comms and when you stop getting intel from BECA don't cry about the Pakistani's.

BeginningReflection4

I mean that’s a terrible choice for India who so desperately trying to get their hands on every piece of military tech we make. They’re likely to get  nailed by 500% sanctions in this next tranche of Russian tariffs as well.

renge-refurion

I mean this is just India hitting themselves in the face repeatedly.

ergzay

They can take Russian stuff like Swisscheese400 that will fail every other time.

Low-Perception-3377

Another major deal highlighting the close cooperation between India and Israel. Just days after the two countries signed an agreement to produce over [400,000 assault rifles for the Indian army](https://en.globes.co.il/en/article-israeli-joint-venture-wins-huge-indian-army-rifle-deal-1001524541), India is now moving forward with another massive defense purchase, a $3.7 billion deal for Israeli made missiles.

India's Defense Procurement Administration, led by Defense Minister Rajnath Singh, is set to approve several defense contracts with Israel worth about $3.76 billion on November 23.

The new package includes advanced MR-SAM air defense missiles and rockets for the Indian ground forces.

The missiles are developed by Israel Aerospace Industries (IAI) together with India's Bharat Dynamics Limited (BDL), and both the Indian Navy and Air Force plan to acquire more than 300 units.

A key factor behind Israel's success in the Indian market is its early alignment with Prime Minister Narendra Modi's "Make in India" initiative. In 2024, IAI established a local subsidiary called ASI, a joint venture employing mostly Indian staff and conducting all business in rupees. 

ASI produces and supports the MR-SAM system, a highly advanced air defense platform that integrates radar, command systems, mobile launchers, and interceptors equipped with modern radio-frequency sensors.

The growing defense ties show how Israel and India became very close partners.

NotSoSaneExile

I think the article's headline and wording can be better because it's intentionally deceiving readers. 

From Wikipedia      

&gt; Barak 8 was jointly developed by India's Defence Research &amp; Development Organisation (DRDO) and Israel Aerospace Industries (IAI). It is produced by Israel's Directorate of Research and Development (DDR&amp;D), Elta Systems, Rafael Advanced Defense Systems and India's Bharat Dynamics limited (BDL), Kalyani Rafael Advanced Systems (KRAS) and Tata Advanced Systems (TASL)


&gt; For the missiles meant for the Indian Armed Forces, Bharat Dynamics Limited (BDL) is the lead integrator of the missile. Components of the missile is manufactured by Kalyani Rafael Advanced Systems (KRAS), a joint venture between the Kalyani Group and Rafael, at Kalyani Rafael's plant in Hyderabad, Telangana before being sent to Bharat Dynamics Limited for further integration.[78][79] The Combat Management System is for the system is designed and manufactured by Tata Advanced Systems.[80][81] With a $100 million investment, BDL built a new production facility in Hyderabad to produce MRSAM and LRSAM missiles. The factory manufacture 100 missiles annually. Rafael, Elta, L&amp;T, Bharath Electronics (BEL), and other private companies are among the other contractors working on the MRSAM.[33]

WolfKumar

slowwolfcat

I like how none of the announcements from the US are reliable now. You have to wait till the other country confirms the announcement.

DktheDarkKnight

I hope that they informed India this time.

Pijlie1965

According to this Hindi article, the agreement does not appear to provide for joint defense against third countries.  
[https://www.bhaskar.com/international/news/us-india10-year-defense-agreement-update-rajnath-singh-army-military-136300187.html](https://www.bhaskar.com/international/news/us-india10-year-defense-agreement-update-rajnath-singh-army-military-136300187.html)  
  
India and the United States on Friday signed a new 10-year defense framework agreement. This agreement will strengthen their militaries, defense industries, and technological cooperation over the next 10 years. Under this agreement, the United States will share advanced technology with India.

The agreement was signed on October 31 in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia, where the two countries were participating in the ASEAN Defense Ministers' Meeting (ADMM-Plus). Indian Defense Minister Rajnath Singh and US Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth signed the agreement.

The US yesterday granted India a six-month exemption from sanctions on Iran's Chabahar port. Previously, it had said it would impose penalties on companies involved in operating, funding, or otherwise working on the port. The port is leased to India for 10 years.

**According to reports, this agreement will have 4 major benefits.**

* **Military cooperation will increase** – the armies of both countries will conduct joint training and military exercises.
* **Joint production** – means both the countries will jointly manufacture weapons, defence equipment and new technology.
* **Technology Sharing** – America will share some of its advanced defense technology with India.
* **Sharing of information and intelligence –** Agencies of both countries will share security information with each other.

**US Defense Minister said – our partnership will be strong**

US Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth wrote on X: "I signed a 10-year US-India defense agreement with Rajnath Singh. This will further strengthen our partnership. A new era of coordination, information sharing, and technical cooperation is beginning between our two countries."

After the agreement was signed, Hegseth thanked Defense Minister Rajnath Singh. He stated that this relationship is one of the most important in the world. Both countries trust each other and desire security and prosperity in the Indo-Pacific region.

Rajnath Singh said that this meeting will further strengthen defense cooperation between ASEAN countries and India. It will also strengthen India's Act East Policy.

MeringueExpensive901

When asked later if the champagne he was drinking was in celebration of the deal, secretary Hesgeth responded, “What deal?”

Charming_Elk4328

So where do they stand in an India v Pakistan conflict?

mekanub

This will definitely keep India from buying Russian oil

yetiking77

Frostymagnum

If this doesn’t mean India joining up with US in a fight against China over Taiwan, then this is pointless

IAmCletus

Most of India’s military equipment is old. India has the money now to modernise the military without affecting the economy. I guess America wants to be a part of that?

Pixi_Dust_408

so, ....
 India will be having a navy base on the Chesapeake Bay?

jakedublin

OneNormalBloke

Doctor_Saved

India won’t trust the US. They see the promises America made to Ukraine when they gave up the nucs. India, and the world, is nobody’s fool now when it comes to American defence.

Little-Jackfruit-931

Not that it's worth much. Still it feels bad when everyone else has a defense pact with India and we don't. So might as well sign one I guess. 

Voaracious

I think every agreement with the USA has trust issues.

ProfitNearby7467

How about signing a pact with your own citizens? Healthcare comes to mind. The amount of people not recognizing how much their insurance is increasing and will affect their purchasing power is staggering.

Get ready to bend over and pay more toward health insurance than you would for a mortgage.

_Saythe_

I don’t trust the US to cooperate and defend anyone or anything other than themselves, even if it means fucking over the country they signed the defense pact with.

BishSlapDiplomacy

Specialist-Bug1592

Joint production means sending US tech to India so they can get the factory jobs, not the US.

Have we not learned????

Ouch259

So what happens in the next Pakistan India war? As Saudi signed a defence pact with Pakistan.

hornyshaitan

hiroller83

ok,at this point WTH is happening in this world

Apprehensive-Art4225

Cool, I can't wait to get drawn into the long-simmering war between India and Pakistan. Way to go Trump! Expanding our "world's police" role!

IPredictAReddit

As a veteran. An Independent. As an American.

We earned our stripes and respect.

Hegseth is a joke.

The four star generals/admirals . . . know this. Pretty sure they have little respect for Hegseth.

Big-Replacement9830

SWEET now we have unlimited access to bioweapons.

Sacpunch

What a load of shit - India buyd Russian oil, russian jet fighters and you fuckwit sign s defence treaty with them??

Muzza54

Will it be more reliable that the one the US had with Ukraine? They were suppose to defend them and doesn't.

ProblemOk9810

Careful_Drop_6995

Normal_Imagination54

Great stand between two nut job super populated Atomic Weapon owning countries...what's wrong with that thought.....

pitshands

I blog on Indian national security and my sense is India's establishment is stunned.  
It's little comfort that it's a stunning reversal of US relations with a lot of countries, not just India. Basic tenets of foreign policy are to assume that both sides are rational and that cooperation is better than an adversarial relationship. Even when there's a leader who does not understand diplomacy, one hoped that a professional team would guide the President, which does not seem to be happening.

Dean_46

It's reversal in US-everyone relations to be accurate. 

Fun-Corner-887

I don’t think the current administration of the US will have any meaningful and trustworthy relations. Not even their long time allies can trust them to not backstab them with tariffs or hidden suggestions of seizing land.

omnibossk

SS

Question - Why's Donald Trump turning on his ideological ally Narendra Modi?

Answer-

1. India was supposed to be America's frontman to fight China, but Trump's team don't really give a damn about that and don't really have a strategy for China. Indian diplomats who go to Washington these days just get fobbed off whenever they try to talk about how they're standing up to China. *“Don’t tell me what you’re doing for us on China. Tell me what you’re doing for us as America.”*

2. The weird thing is some of the Trump administration's messaging on China still says they don't want China to dominate and want to counter it. And yet they're shitting on all the countries they need to help with that. So they don't know what they're doing.

3. Trump doesn't give a damn about Pakistan, they just buttered him up and greased up his family businesses so he's giving them a little something in return.

4. Modi should have probably given Trump some credit for the ceasefire between India and Pakistan. He tried to tell Trump he couldn't do that in public because it'd hurt his image at home. Trump didn't care and India got 50% tariffs. The Russian oil's just an excuse, Trump hit India because he thinks they can't hit back like China can, and... well, he's right.

5. The Indians got cocky, thought Trump 2.0 would be like Trump 1.0(and Trump 1.0 actually helped them with intel against China in the 2020 border clash) and now US-India relations are at the lowest since the 1990s.

6. Tariffs, H1B visas etc. are all gonna be a big economic hit for India. Officially it'll cut GDP growth by 1% but it could get much worse than that and it's bad for Modi's ratings at home.

7. Indian diaspora in America hasn't said anything about how badly Trump's been treating India, Democrats haven't either. It's mostly crickets. But India's own right-wing media(who used to like Trump) have been breathing fire.

8. Indians used to think Democrats didn't like India and a Republican President would be better for relations. Trump's cleared that up and now Indian diplomats are thinking about how great they had it under Biden. Now they don't even have anyone to talk to on the American side because Trump's people won't even pick up their calls.

casualphilosopher1

This will be studied by a lot of game theorists in the future. 

PMSwaha

All the time, money, and geopolitical alliance down the drain, what are we doing?

Severe_Science9309

My initial reaction was, has it reversed again. Once its passed 6 month, we are in a separate news cycle, it should really be referred to in past tense. 

Magicalsandwichpress

The funny thing is, I bet Modi and his supporters were hoping for a Trump win in 2024. Things don’t really seem to be working out how they imagined it, though.

jogarz

Outside of India, no one thinks about India.

This is only stunning to Indians trying to get out of India. 

Both US and Canada are shutting their doors.

Evilbred

I haven't read the article, but I think people are overstating this. Both countries know they are necessary partners at some level due to China and maintaining a stable Pakistan. Trade was never huge and there will continue to be networks between the private sectors and diaspora in the US. 

In my opinion, I think it mostly comes down to the personalities of the two guys leading these countries. They don't mesh and never will.

VitaNueva

The stunning reversal displays the failure of India’s Non-Alignment policy in the aftermath of the Russia Ukraine war. India has relied on Russia as its primary weapons supplier for decades, however Russia does not have the capability to produce enough weapons to sustain a war of attrition with Ukraine and also supply India the quantity of weapons India needs to defend its vast borders. Moreover India does not have the capability to produce the quality and quantity of weapons it requires to defend itself against its neighbors like China. India’s main enemy Pakistan has the major advantage of being backed by 2 of the largest weapons manufacturers in the world US &amp; China. So in the case of a prolonged conflict with India, Pakistan will have the advantage of continuously being supplied with top of the line weapons from both US &amp; China while India’s fighting capabilities will keep on degrading over time. Pakistan has also found an ally in Saudi Arabia, so India’s energy supplies are also prone to major disruptions during a conflict with Pakistan. This is possibly the worst place India has been in decades, surrounded by powerful enemies on 3 sides and no allies internationally. India’s attempts at getting close with China is just an invitation for being backstabbed in the future akin to the 1961 war between the 2 nations.
Best thing India can do right now is to create a whole new branch of armed forces, Indian Marines and model it fully on the US Marines. Make huge weapons deals with the Trump administration to fully equip the new branch with American hardware. From assault rifles to possibly HIMARS and even F-16s. This will give US manufacturers access to the India’s defense sector and a monopoly to bid for lucrative contracts with the newly formed branch of Indian military, India gets a whole new branch of military equipped with US hardware while retaining its traditional suppliers like Russia, Israel &amp; France. It can also give India a certain degree of diplomatic support from the US and the US military industrial complex gets a whole new market. Yes in a way India will be paying its way out of the sticky situation it is in right now but India has no other options and Trump administrations is the only administration that can get onboard with such plan and take decisive  actions that benefit the US weapons manufacturers quickly enough to give India the much needed security it needs from China &amp; Pakistan. The framework for such a deal can be negotiated as a part of the tariff negotiations ongoing between US &amp; India which also allows both sides an avenue to come to a mutually beneficial agreement without loosing face or further escalating the situation.

anonymousNetizen5

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